Few R2 observations/bugs

[Privateer]

I know these should go in FFR Bug Report, but meh.

1. I stopped pressing buttons and I only got one miss per 20 arrows or so. It took almost a full minute to fail out of a song.

2. All the songs seem around 60-80 gap too high. All seem consistently off (only tried a few songs though).

3. Couple songs don't load.

I'll provide more information on my computer/connection and these problems in a sec.

[Privateer]

I'm on a fast comp, runs at max speed. Using IE.

Half songs don't load. I notice that lower difficulties for songs load more often than higher difficulties.

Very offsync. :/ Same comment as I said before.

[Synthlight]

We are noticing that sometimes the load bar is at 100% but that it still must load for awhile. Does this possibly describe what is happening?

Cheers,

Synthlight

And when you say offsync, can you elaborate?

[Privateer]

Elaboration (from first post): "All the songs seem around 60-80 gap too high"

Not much else to say. :/

Oh, and the combo count messes up. If I break a combo with a miss, it comes back after I start hitting arrows again.

Example sequence:
200 combo
miss
hit arrow -> 201 combo and on

[Synthlight]

Does this happen for anyone else with the combo thing? I cannot replicate this problem here.

[ImEric12]

Yeah, only bug I've noticed is the load bar being stuck at 100%... otherwise, seems pretty flawless.

[emccky]

Needs reverse :( sorry for bugging about this so much.. but i was waiting for this for 24 hours now.. just to realize i can't play it :(

[deltro300111]

It doesn't feel like I'm hitting the arrows- like there is a lag time between keypress/key-register my animations are smooth in both MSIE/Firefox,.. I dunno whatsup, maybe it's the arrow explode anim.. whatever- it's fine...

[blahblah18]

I havn't gotten that combo problem but I ahve gotten another... when I get a combo breaker, the next one i hit says combo 0, and then goes up from there.. I'll fool aroudn with it more to see if i cna pinpoint exactly what's happeneing, since it hasn't happened every time

[pLyRzSpAwN]

I've noticed the combo problem aswell.

[Privateer]

The difficulties I choose don't match up with what I play. Every time I choose a heavy song, I either get a non-heavy version of the steps, or the song bar sticks at 100%.

Anyway, Privateer out. I'll discuss further when I wake up tomorrow.

[ImEric12]

Hmm, another thing... when scrolling through the song wheel with heavy difficulty, and you hit a song with no heavy steps, it moves it down to standard, then keeps it there instead of reverting back to heavy.

[hydrojakep]

I found out how to fix the load thing.

Right click, and press play.

This will make the game run smoother, because it doesnt let the song and graphics load, so all you get is the arrows.

That way, less lag.

[Moogy]

It's impossible to fail songs right now because it takes so long for the life bar to decrease.

Like Privateer said, a lot of songs don't load. Party4U and Euromorroc, among others, do not load for me. They just appear at 100% loaded and stay there forever.

Combo is VERY messed up.

Freezes don't register right.

That's basically it.

[Brainmaster07]

If it's stuck at 100% right click and press play.

[sleeplessdragn]

i noticed the non loading problem and found that if i refresh my cache the songs come back.

[Moogy]

That will load it with no background and broken highscores.

[Kenzya]

Ok, I'm getting around 30-50 FPS in game about 65 out. These screenshots are taken with fade on at visual 100%....

I'm guessing that there's something wrong with timing.

[SyperDeath69]

hmm ya im another who has experienced the combo bug which continues after i get a miss. But what also sometimes gets me frustrated is that the songs are offsync. Besides that, the layout, graphics, and animation is AWSOME! I LOVE IT :D

[Kilgamayan]

JenovaSephiroth's Extreme got used instead of my own. You might want to fix that some time soon.

[SyperDeath69]

omg lol check this out:

i was screwin around with it and right clicking > Play (2 times) after a song and then it came to this screen saying i passed with a D on the screen with perfects , greats , etc. all 0. And then out of no where the song just PLAYS with the arrows comin up!

http://syperdeath.bravehost.com/bug1.bmp

[banditcom]

Negative scores rule....

[UWSTopGun]

All songs are offsync, the song is either too fast for the arrows or too slow.

EDIT: Can't play a song more than once.

[Snapps]

stormdragonz0: you die off or something?
Snapps50: no :/
Snapps50: its offbeat though
Snapps50: :/
Snapps50: laggy i guess for me
stormdragonz0: i cant play it
Snapps50: sorry
Snapps50: try again
stormdragonz0: no, there is areason
stormdragonz0: my computer can load, but for some reason, never registers it
Snapps50: :/
Snapps50: sucks bad
stormdragonz0: usally i play on the college computers
stormdragonz0: lol
stormdragonz0: so meh, i'll do what i was told
stormdragonz0: take notes and get feedback
stormdragonz0: so far, one person said to me
stormdragonz0: Well...so far I haven't played ANYTHING yet...
stormdragonz0: Well...so far I haven't played ANYTHING yet...
stormdragonz0: oops
stormdragonz0: lol
stormdragonz0: Just been reloading and reloading...
stormdragonz0: so its the lag
stormdragonz0: in my guess
Snapps50: yea
stormdragonz0: still, if you have any comments about it
stormdragonz0: i can write them down
Snapps50: about this?
Snapps50: reality is offbeat for me
stormdragonz0: ok, i can mark that down
stormdragonz0: how much offbeat
stormdragonz0: arrow here beat here
Snapps50: like
Snapps50: i mean
Snapps50: its on
Snapps50: but
Snapps50: its off by like 2 note
Snapps50: s
stormdragonz0: ah ok
stormdragonz0: i do much for FFR, that truely i shouldnt
Snapps50: lol
Snapps50: k
stormdragonz0: that no one really tells me not to
stormdragonz0: so i do it anyway
stormdragonz0: why, i got nothing better to do
stormdragonz0: i got my story im writing based off of FFR characters
Snapps50: lol
Snapps50: really
Snapps50: fun
stormdragonz0: yeah, purplepoise is a succumbus with a deadly katana
Snapps50: ok
Snapps50: its offbeat
Snapps50: most are
Snapps50: it doesnt have the top part down thing like sm
Snapps50: which i need
stormdragonz0: ooh, that i can mark down
Snapps50: and when you hit it it needs a bigger flash
stormdragonz0: usally what i do is gain some info, mark it down, speak with someone who knows synth or anyone else, and transfer info from there
Snapps50: Ah
Snapps50: Nice
stormdragonz0: i need a new mega man robot master icon
Snapps50: hmm
Snapps50: loading isnt working now
Snapps50: im refreshing
Snapps50: its up
stormdragonz0: just curious, a lot of people are probably playing this now, could that have a effect
Snapps50: maybe
Snapps50: its scrolling slow
Snapps50: i want it faster
stormdragonz0: then threaten it
Snapps50: i cant
Snapps50: when you go into options
Snapps50: it like
stormdragonz0: you cant go back
Snapps50: does its stuff
Snapps50: well yeah
Snapps50: hit delete key
Snapps50: then your out
Snapps50: but
stormdragonz0: ah ok
Snapps50: you go back to the random pick
Snapps50: and have to find the song over again
Snapps50: a glitch happend
Snapps50: the words for the song title came out of its box
Snapps50: XD
Snapps50: then went back in
stormdragonz0: only 27 minutes
stormdragonz0: and we find a glitch
stormdragonz0: marks glitch #1 of 500
Snapps50: ok
Snapps50: well
Snapps50: you can send that
Snapps50: whatever you wrote
Snapps50: down
stormdragonz0: im talking with different people, so ill get input for some time
stormdragonz0: with different browsers and what not
stormdragonz0: i have firefox
Snapps50: HEY
Snapps50: THAT NOTESKIN
Snapps50: IS MY NOTESKIN
stormdragonz0: for what?
Snapps50: ON R2
stormdragonz0: wait, do you refer to....
Snapps50: The note color
Snapps50: is the same as what i made
stormdragonz0: ah ok
Snapps50: noteskin
stormdragonz0: were you given any indication
Snapps50: nope
Snapps50: it looks pretty damn close to mine though
stormdragonz0: if its not exact, you cant make a case out of it
stormdragonz0: however, since im good at bull****ting, i can easily make it look like it
Snapps50: mine is called dark-note
Snapps50: your not writing this
Snapps50: lol
Snapps50: :/
stormdragonz0: oh
Snapps50: k
Snapps50: lol
stormdragonz0: well, i was about to
Snapps50: another glitch
Snapps50: it might like
Snapps50: go to standard mode when scrolling songs
Snapps50: i have to change it back to hvy
Snapps50: oh wait
Snapps50: it didnt have a hvy
Snapps50: lol
stormdragonz0: lol
stormdragonz0: now that's something
Snapps50: timing window is SMALL
Snapps50: if you cant read the rest of what the song title is, you highlight it and drag
Snapps50: and
Snapps50: it like
Snapps50: shows the rest
Snapps50: and the loading sequence is ok, sometimes it doesnt show how far its loading

My stuff is important, not his words.

[UWSTopGun]

Can't play a song more than once.

[banditcom]

Robby, you right click and select play to play the song.

It's laggy as **** for me. The visual option doesn't work. And it still lags even when I right click and select Low quality. Sometimes during a song I'll get random spurts of smoothness. The difference is astounding.

Anyways, it's early stages. It's still very nice for a first release.

[Could_Strife007]

Check out my "official" thread here: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=20380
Meh...

[ThEclipse]

uh guys

you do realize

there are already people out there cheating using judge 2 life 2

this is going to be a BIG problem score wise

synth or soccr need to keep the judge and life LOCKED on 4 so people can't be cheap and use them

seriously though i'm sure people have already been using them, it's not fair

just disable that option or something please

oh and:

the extreme is completely off, i have no clue how i got 12 greats on it :D

and if you hit buttons just after the load screen, it will say event mode through your entire song and the rest of the game if you don't refresh.

[UWSTopGun]

Robby, you right click and select play to play the song


Thank you.

[Kenzya]

The visual option doesn't work.

Click on fade and play with visual 100% on.

Then...

Click on fade and play with visual 0% off.

Notice the difference? That's what it's for I guess :/

I can keep like 30-50 fps in game on high quality.. but I can keep a constant 60+ with low on.

[Synthlight]

I don't think I have ever received any information regarding anything official on FFR from StormDragonz. Sounds to me like he is exagerating a bit.

Cheers,

Synthlight

[Omegix]

Eclipse you can't change to judge 2 and stuff. They have no effect.

[ThEclipse]

I can't get versus mode to work :/

well, like there is no enter button for the 2nd player side so you kinda sit there like :| what do i do

help anyone?

Hayden and I are trying to use two keyboards to play versus

but we don't know how to hit enter with the 2nd keyboard, or with the 2nd player in any case

did you guys even take this into consideration?

kthxbai

[ggfiggons1]

Lowering quality synced this...much better...wow...what?

[Synthlight]

asdw and space bar for Player 2

Cheers,

Synthlight

[UWSTopGun]

Lowering the Quality to LOW made it 10x smoother and somewhat more on beat for SOME songs.

[Snapps]

I don't think I have ever received any information regarding anything official on FFR from StormDragonz. Sounds to me like he is exagerating a bit.

Cheers,

Synthlight

I'm guessing he means that he can give it to someone to give to a mod.

[Could_Strife007]

If you want play at a Comfortable speed just use your 4th grade math. Divide your normal BPM (mine's C550) by the BPM of the song and the number you get is your multiplier. ^_-

Also, if Synth were to put the backgrounds (which is what is loading so long) in the main directory of the server and then edited the load process for it to look for it there would it load faster?

Make sure you're playing in IE with Flash 7.19 on low in at least 1024x768

[ThEclipse]

well carly,

i had the stepchart of a song stuck in the game

like i played katz and the stepchart thing was in the middle of the bg lol


Edit: how do you option speed mods for the 2nd player side? I can only get it to work for the 1st player side.

[soccr743]

When you go into options in versus mode you hit delete after P1 and then it brings you to the P2 options...

And citrus that does happen occasionally but not on every song for one reason or another...

-----Soccr743-----

[TheDancingBoy]

freeze arrows appear to be off - when you have a jump like left right and one is a freeze (say the right) and the freeze ends with another jump, you dont seem to get an actual grade appear on the screen for the other arrow, just an OK.

[flypie743]

A few pages late: Snapps that is not your noteskin :/

[Tps222]

I also thinkit would be a cool feature to give you a preview of the song in the menu, like if you want to pcik holy night, when u scroll over if it coulde give you a quick preview of the song, that way u don't have to go hours testing songs to see which ones sound good

[jimerax]

General View = little SM
Scroll Speed Change = pretty nice
Smoothness = wtf
Note Arrows = excellent
Judge = easy
Freezes = strict
Songs = sweet
Steps = partially good/bad
Loading time = too long

[RobbyZero]

On SM you can generally hit a freeze arrow a long one that is and keep tapping the same arrow without losing the freeze, but i seem to lose my freeze just letting go for the most split second =\

[Tps222]

I know this isn't a big deal but sometimes with the scoring a get an A but in he high scores it gives me a B. Ive noticed this a lot.

[NaOTa4231]

For me, I've only played about 5 songs but they all loaded within seconds and some were heavy songs. The combo system hasn't messed up yet either. R2 is def. awesome and the backgrounds are pretty sweet too.

also it might just be me but it seems like the (Marvelous,Perfect etc is lower on the screen than usual)
good job

[emccky]

I REALLY need reverse scroll. I speak for quite a few others when i say that.

[Musical_Master]

How do you lower the quality?

[lightdarkness]

How do you lower the quality?

Right click in the flash window, go to quality, and select your setting.

[emccky]

I love how NOBODY cares that A LOT of people cannot play right now because there is no reverse scroll.

[aperson]

JenovaSephiroth's Extreme got used instead of my own. You might want to fix that some time soon.

You need to tone your ego down, it'll make your failure not as crushing.

[Piroteknix]

Reverse is an annoyance to me! I get messed up and just quit (or fail XD)

[flypie743]

I love how NOBODY cares that A LOT of people cannot play right now because there is no reverse scroll.

Emccky, SHUT UP ABOUT IT. You said it once, that is good enough. It will be done in the near future. We care.

[Kenzya]

Hmm.. Songs are offsync with fade on for me.. I was kind of hoping for more of a "hidden" mod. Could a mod like hidden on SM be put into R2.. please? :(

Bug for fade anyway.. the freeze arrows. When holding down a freeze arrow, the tail completely dissapears. Shouldn't it still fade? You can't tell when it ends or not.

[emccky]

Not that I don't trust you flypie.. but I'd like to hear that from the staff. They said the same thing about multiplayer in .68, but no reverse was to be found.

[flypie743]

Listen emccky, I probably know what is going to be added into R2 more than the staff does, excluding soccr and Synth. Just play the regular way for now.

It was just released yesterday and soccr needs a bit of a break.

[emccky]

See, i can't play regular. I can't pass songs like that. I learned how to play using reverse, and trying to play regular just doesn't work. The game looks amazing.. just it's impossible for me to play regular.

[lightdarkness]

flypie knows more about R2 than most, she knows what she is talking about.

[Gnik]

R2 works virtually perfect for me, everything is on beat and the FPS stays a consistant 64. The only problem is that after I play a song once, I can't load the same song again (it just starts and freezes at 100%). Clearing the cache fixes this problem.

Sometimes songs start with their bars at 100% and do load, but only the first time.

[Snapps]

Flypie: A few pages late but ok, I was like O: Because it looks very similar. But yeah I don't think it really matters.

[HunterXI]

Not sure if someone has mentioned it or not, but I use Maxthon ( http://maxthon.com/ ), and for some reason (Note that Maxthon uses the IE core, and is compatible with everything IE is... well, it is for everything except R2), it refuses to show the song list. As in, it doesn't show any songs. Same with groups, doesn't show any Song Groups either. Otherwise, everything else seems to work perfectly.

[lightdarkness]

Not sure if someone has mentioned it or not, but I use Maxthon ( http://maxthon.com/ ), and for some reason (Note that Maxthon uses the IE core, and is compatible with everything IE is... well, it is for everything except R2), it refuses to show the song list. As in, it doesn't show any songs. Same with groups, doesn't show any Song Groups either. Otherwise, everything else seems to work perfectly.

Synth deleted some core files needed to run the game, but they are back up, and everything should work fine.

[Snapps]

I can go to a blank group and play a blank song. Blank steps.

[evilbutterfly]

The only thing that is really pissing me off about it is the fact that when you leave options it kicks you back to song selection with Random selected. I always wanna change the speed but am discouraged to do so because of this.

[Type-X]

i find everything is working pretty well with it except the scoreboard for party 4u dosent work other then that i have seen too many problems good work so far. its a vast improvment over r1

[zildjian133]

Two suggestions: Either make the scroll through the song list faster or instead of going back to random after changing the arrow speed mod keep it on the song you had selected. Like when you goto a song to see its bpm to change the arrow mod speed iti always puts you back at random and it takes a long time to scroll through to get back to that song....

[GWing_02]

I'm getting a nice, steady 100fps but songs aren't loading right, as you know already.

If as soon as you select the song the load bar's already at 100%, chances are you're doomed.

Also, if you scroll around on the song list, you'll find that songs' difficulties change sometimes if you scroll around a bit and then scroll back to it.

[jmtb02]

The biggest bug I found is that if you set the speed to a certain rate, all the arrows will completely miss the target, allowing the user to gain a few "good" points or so but not to miss any of the arrows. Interesting.

--jmtb02

[Anonymous]

Errors/bugs:
1. I found that if you fail a song while holding a freeze arrow, the arrow will stay on the screen.
2. If you enter the average or heavy difficulty level and scroll through the songs the difficulty will change when you hit the song "extreme"
3. The timing for extreme is REALLY bad

Other than that I think R2 is great! Keep up the good work guys! :D

[flypie743]

The arrow staying on the screen is a known bug. The difficulty sometimes changes around. Extreme's timing is off. That is known and I heard it was because of the mp3 (correct me if I am wrong).

[evilbutterfly]

Difficulty changing around is a problem in DDR, even, I think.

But really, the game works fine for me. Things are onsync and they load fine, except for once. The song had already been loaded once before, so I tried right clicking and hitting play, and it worked except the bg wasn't there. And as far as the not being able to fail thing, that's only happened once for me. It was kinda annoying because I wanted to end the song so I stopped hitting keys, but it kept going XD


But I still think that my biggest complaint is that Random is always selected. After you complete a song, it goes back to Random. After you return from options, back to Random. This bothered me in FFR as well (if I finished a song and wanted to play a song in the same category I'd have to go back through to it). It is really annoying if you are trying to get a high score or something and wanna keep playing the same song over and over.

[lee3169]

I know you have lots of bugs to deal with, so sorry to be so nit-picky...

After you clear a stage, STAGE RESULTS appear and
"VOLTAGE" is spelled "VOLATGE".

I love the new look. It's so much cleaner than FFR. Can't wait for
all the bugs to be gone.

[g0ldenSun11]

Whenever I play Katz (heavy), it loads, then "EVENT MODE" pops up, steps load, but "EVENT MODE" doesn't go away.

Not that anyone cares, but I liked R2's BGM loop better on the preview video than this one.

[g0ldenSun11]

I just failed Extreme after getting bored with the horribly off-sync steps and this is what happens:

http://img44.exs.cx/img44/5381/GlitchR2.png

I find it a bit wierd that I got full everything 'cept freeze. And I already knew that I was in event mode...

[-joe-]

I accidently played reality on 4 speed, pressed escape, lowered my speed and went back to reality. Pressed enter, loaded 100% and just sat there for about 2 minutes.

=/

[Totaly_crazzy]

the problem g0ldensun11 is happening to me all the time... but with other things also...

1) the "cleared" and "failed" sometime stay when i'm in the song wheel

2) Event mode sticks sometimes

3) when a song starts, occationally the mini frr guys that move across the screen stop half way then stay that way no matter where i am in the menu...

4) The shape that apears in the difficulty circle with (stream, chaos, freeze, air and voltage) will get stuck on the screen no matter where i am in the main menu.

It's not a new problem though, i noticed that in ffr .68 too... click on genre twice really fast and the ffr shop dosn't appear... stuff like that. i think you have a few problems you need fixed with the transition from one area to another... make it so we can't click on a button till EVERYTHING is load on the screen so they don't continue loading once you've moved to another area in the menu..

hope this makes sence... if not, e-mail me

[sleeplessdragn]

does anyone know the enter button for player 2?

[Dale]

does anyone know the enter button for player 2?
Space.

[HowdyLuk]

like the first poster said, it's 60-80 gaps too high, too problematic for me to want to play r2 at all...

[HowdyLuk]

Difficulty changing around is a problem in DDR, even, I think.

But really, the game works fine for me. Things are onsync and they load fine, except for once. The song had already been loaded once before, so I tried right clicking and hitting play, and it worked except the bg wasn't there. And as far as the not being able to fail thing, that's only happened once for me. It was kinda annoying because I wanted to end the song so I stopped hitting keys, but it kept going XD


But I still think that my biggest complaint is that Random is always selected. After you complete a song, it goes back to Random. After you return from options, back to Random. This bothered me in FFR as well (if I finished a song and wanted to play a song in the same category I'd have to go back through to it). It is really annoying if you are trying to get a high score or something and wanna keep playing the same song over and over.

no, after you're off the song with different difficulty, it snaps back onto the difficulty you selected